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  Saturday, January 18, 2003

Ethics Daily.com interviews Quentin Schultze

Cliff at ethics daily.com gives a good interview of Quentin Schultze.   I latch onto a couple of the responses and ask some questions ---- I know that the interview wasn't lengthy enough to delve this deeply into speicifics,  but having read half the chapters thouroughly and scanned the points of others, I have some question as to whether Schultze has struck a balance between "informationism" and "virtuosity";  between "cyber-utopian" and "doing the right thing". 

On religious Web sites cultivating faith: The Web seems to be better for pointing people to faith rather than nurturing faith, which happens in local community. Many people are searching for God online, as strange as that seems. When the history of the Web is written I suspect that careful researchers will find that two major quests dominated the medium's early years: the quest for God and the quest for sex. Both involve intimacy. G.K. Chesterton supposedly said, "The man who goes up to the brothel door and knocks is looking for God." I think it is the anonymity of the Web that leads to the religious as well as the sexual searches. Looking for God online is much less intimidating than going through the door of a church.

On community in cyberspace: The richest forms of human community will never exist "online," only in person. Imagine a church community that "lives" only on the Web or via email. Once someone sent me an email to find out how to do the sacraments online. Can you imagine that? Real community, whether religious or not, exists in geographic proximity and is nurtured in relationships, which enable us to see and touch one another. The "passing of the peace" is a venerable Christian tradition in this regard.


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12:12:32 PM    
Anti-Virtual Comunity Rants in New Book

I've been reading,  somewhat exasperated at times,  Quentin Schultze's Habits of the High-Tech Heart.  He approaches the subject in much the same contrarian, straw-dog argument and "anti-hype" as I remember in Clifford Stoll's "Silicon Snake Oil" did about 10 years ago. 

For instance:

Contemplative ways of life are not anti-technological as much as pro-community, pro-wisdom, and pro-faithfulness" (p. 197)

and yet I can find nothing but anti-technology as the over-arching theme of the book.  Moving back to the final two chapters and exploring the direction of the arguments reveals more of the same. 

The final paragraph:

To regain a moral footing in contemporary life,  we must dig deeper than information and knowledge, to the traditions that carry virtue from generation to generation.  we will have to invest as much time and energy inthe habits of our hearts as we do inour high-tech practices. Otherwise we will lose track of crucial links to the past that can illuminate the path to goodness. (p. 209)

p.186,  conclusions in chapter7, Nurturing Virtue in Community:

Most of the rhetoric about cyber-community  wrpongly assumes that we can deeply commune with one another  using only the instrumental techniques of communication. 

NOBODY does this.  NOBODY uses only the "instrumental techniques of communication".  Included in every communication that I would consider to be of truly personal nature is the transmission of  some embodiment of that person.  It is NOT something which contains ALL of a person,  for NOTHING is.  Not even our "face-to-face" , "traditional" relationships do that.  I have maintained for years that I have experienced ONLINE relationships that FAR surpass the level of "interpersonal exchange" that I have experienced from 99% of my experience of "face-to-face" , "Traditional" churches,  the kinds which are supposedly transmitting those religious traditions Schultze says are being ignored by the online community efforts.  

I scratch my head when I read statements like :

Online community ultimately lacks a real environment where people can be fully neighborly and hospitable.

High-tech community that exists "out there," on wires and radio waves or on beams of light, is too morally amorphous to sustain virtuous living.

If we sincerely desire to be a grateful and responsible society,  we will have to commit ourselves to renewing local community as much as we do to extending our messaging into the distant reaches of cyberspace.

One by one,  I will be "picking" at these and other generalizations and biases. I've been disappointed in the one-sided treatment ;  that "this book,  subtitled as Living Virtuously in the Information Age" apparently defines such virtuous living as "avoiding the Web as much as possible",  since there isn't much chance of discovering anything truly worthwhile.  If he thinks otherwise,  there is nothing I can find which actually cites positive use (or in Schultze's case, "worthy use" of the Internet in the pusuit of "moral ends".)


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10:22:14 AM    
Moderation vs Opportunity

As I remember the way that I was "introduced" to Martin Luther King, Jr. by televesion,  and reflect on the new "opportunities" for the Church in "telling a story" on the Web,  I am still reading "Habits of the High-tech heart" and continue to find myself saying "Yeah, but...." at nearly every paragraph through where I have read (page 56).  read on in Instantaneous vs Infoglut


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